<P><BR><B>BALLETT FRANKFURT: THE CURIOUS DANA CASPERSEN</B><P>WHO: BALLETT FRANKFURT<BR>WHEN: SAT 3 - SAT 10 NOVEMBER<BR> Artifact Sat 3 - Mon 5 Nov <BR> Eidos:Telos Thu 8 - Sat 10 Nov<BR>WHERE: SADLER'S WELLS<BR>TICKETS: 020 7863 8000<P>

<BR>Dana Casperson in 'Eidos : Telos'<BR>Photo: Dominik Mentzos<P><BR>Dana Caspersen was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA. She studied in New York with Maggie Black, Kim Abel and Erick Hawkins, and performed with North Carolina Dance Theater, before joining the Olivier Award-winning Ballett Frankfurt in 1988. She has written about her experiences in the company for the journal Choreography and Dance, volume 5, part 3. Also check out the excellent website <A HREF="http://www.frankfurt-ballett.de" TARGET=_blank>www.frankfurt-ballett.de</A> for more information.<P>Caspersen performs in Artifact and the three-part Eidos:Telos, the pieces being presented at Sadler's Wells. Both are non-narrative works of monumental intelligence which contain spoken text and startling theatrical effects amidst some stunning dance. For the latter she wrote her own monologue. Caspersen won a Bessie Award for Eidos:Telos when it was performed in New York.<P>Donald Hutera: Was dance a part of your childhood?<BR>Dana Caspersen: My grandmother said I was always dancing around the house. I took some classes but was more interested in gymnastics.<P>DH: What was your early training?<BR>DC: In high school I attended a theatre school, so I had quite an eclectic dance training, primarily focused on ballet. I also studied piano intensively.<P>DH: How did you come to start dancing for William Forsythe and Ballett Frankfurt?<BR>DC: I came to Frankfurt by accident. I was travelling around looking for work and had a friend here and was sick of youth hostels. I'd never heard of Bill, but was thrilled by what I'd stumbled across.<P>DH: What does he look for in a dancer, and expect of those in the company?<BR>DC: Bill speaks of the company as a choreographic ensemble. Often the dancers are involved in several sides of the creative process. So he looks for artists and colleagues who are interested in his work, but who also have their own art hearts and minds and don't wait for orders. These are people who have what I would term dance intelligence: curiosity, fearlessness and the desire to continuously reapproach dancing. Physically he looks for the ability to coordinate in highly complex ways, using isolation and extreme articulation of head, neck, hips, torso and limbs. People also need a strong balletic technique, although if someone is extraordinary in other ways that isn't necessarily a deciding factor.<P>DH: What are the pleasures and challenges of working with him?<BR>DC: I once came across a quote from the 17th-century Japanese Zen master Takasui, who said: "You must doubt deeply, again and again, asking yourself what the subject of hearing could be." This is the way Bill works. He doubts with a tenaciously curious delight. He instinctively investigates and explodes the layers of ossification that seem to occur naturally in institutions and in the wake of success. He never hangs onto things, so the works are always changing in substantial ways. He has a joyous physical genius and an extraordinarily fluid and ungrasping mind, which allows both the sublime and the grotesque to move through him. He knows how to inspire and explain to others the mechanics and spirit that moves him. He is curious in areas of blindness and sorrow as well as joy, and tends to respond to obstacles and failure as opportunities to re-see, he trusts himself, but he never assumes that he knows.<P>DH: What are his typical working methods?<BR>DC: They differ vastly from piece to piece. His role in each new one varies, but he almost always functions as a catalyst and editor. There are many levels of collaboration between Bill and the company within that framework.<P>DH: What happens in Eidos:Telos - what do we see and hear?<BR>DC: I would say it is a detailed cataclysm. Everywhere is dance, and I appear in the middle section in a danced monologue which is woven through the archetype of Persephone/Demeter and acts as a detonator. As I was working on my text, I was reading about the Grandmother Spider in Native American traditions. She's a figure who both creates and destroys, who weaves the world and 'thinks us as we are being.' The piece itself thinks about this - a constant re-weaving. There are other texts Bill has made, which are characters in the underworld. And there are are three trombonists and a violinst onstage who are processed electronically, live.<P>DH: What is it like being inside Artifact?<BR>DC: I perform two roles, one as a dancer and the other a speaking role as the 'Woman in the Historical Dress.' The piece is like a vast crystalline structure which constantly re-forms itself around you, taking you with it. It has a tremendous, deep beauty and rage and sadness and letting go, and as a dancer some of the most extraordinary pas de deux work I've ever done.<P>DH: How much is dancing a form of acting?<BR>DC: Well, I often dance and act (in the sense of speaking) at the same time, so on some level they are the same. Both are methods of propulsion which give form to ideas. But, if pressed, I would say that acting is more like moving on land and dancing is more like moving in water.<P>DH: What kind of dancer are you?<BR>DC: I don't know. I do all kinds of things and find it untrue and uninteresting to insist on distinctions.<P>DH: Why do you dance?<BR>DC: Dancing is a channel for a particular kind of fierce joy, as well as fierce sorrow, anger, ambivalence, laughter, curiosity. It's a state where you can be aware of many different, and sometimes contradictory, things happening at once.<P>DH: If you weren't a dancer, what might you be doing?<BR>DC: I also work as a choreographer and director. But if I weren't working in the theatre at all I would maybe be studying medicine or physics. I'm also very interested in writing. Right now I'm reading about shamanism because I'm curious about how humans seem to live in a constant state of metaphor or, as Oliver Sacks says, seem to be dreaming all the time.<P>DH: What's the best thing about living in Germany?<BR>DC: The arts are well-supported!<P><P>------------------<BR>This interview was posted by Stuart Sweeney on behalf of Donald Hutera.<P>Donald Hutera writes regularly on dance and arts for The Times, Evening Standard, Time Out, Dance Europe, Dance Magazine (US) and Dance Now. 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