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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2001 8:50 am 
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I thought of something else that needs to be in the Intern Guidebook (and I know more than a few professional stagehands who could benefit from it, too):<P>4. The call time is the time at which work is to start. It is <I>not</I> the time at which you are to walk in and begin eating your Egg McMuffin (Croisandwiches taste better, anyway), nor is it the appropriate time to begin (or continue) a personal conversation with your friends.<P>------------------<BR>Jeffrey E. Salzberg, Lighting Designer<P>Online portfolio: <A HREF="http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg</A> <BR>This Day in Arts History: <A HREF="http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg/arthist.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg/arthist.htm</A><P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by salzberg (edited March 26, 2001).]

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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2001 10:23 am 
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Hey, Jeff! Say what you like about Interns, but take care what you say about Egg MacMuffins. You dig?


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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2001 10:42 am 
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All the more reason why they should be appreciated at a leisurely pace <I>before</I> the scheduled work time.

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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2001 11:19 am 
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I'd like to borrow that manual when you're finished and post it in our law office. <P>Ditto for lunches. We've got some kinda pre-lunch and post-lunch thing going on here. Yadayadayada -- followed by, "where do you want to eat?" -- followed by yadayadayadayada.<P>


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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2001 11:23 am 
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Encouraging news on the intern front. . . .<P>I just received the following via email:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><I>Greetings! I would just like to take this oppourtunity to semi-introduce<BR>myself, my name is XXXXX XXXXXXX and I am going ot be working as the electrics intern at St. Micheal's this summer. Just sort of want to touch base with you to see if there was anything you could tell as far as what<BR>to expect and how to prepare, this is my first time working with a totally equity company and I am a bit nervous about it.</I><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It turns out that I've seen this person's messages (I think) on a stagecraft mailing list. So, my question to you all is this: ought I to invite him to participate in this forum and read the things we've all said about interns?<P>------------------<BR>Jeffrey E. Salzberg, Lighting Designer<BR>"Shang-a-lang, feel the <I>sturm und drang</I> in the air!"<BR>Online portfolio: <A HREF="http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg" TARGET=_blank>http://www.suncoast.quik.com/salzberg</A> <P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by salzberg (edited April 22, 2001).]

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2001 1:43 pm 
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Why not? Would let the person see many varied opinions and views. Varied - but yet all pretty much of a theme.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2001 4:16 pm 
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Uhm, Jeff...said person states they are nervous, perhaps the invitation could also be prefaced with a little introduction about your witty and curmudgeony self.....before the first introduction is read. <P>With that in mind, however, this has been a great discussion, and it could be a great ice breaker.<BR>


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2001 6:31 pm 
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Well, my inclination at this point is to summarize it all for him.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2001 3:31 am 
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If someone thinks <I>I</I> am a curmudgeon, wait'll they work with a 25-year veteran of IA local #1 (Manhattan), #2 (Chicago), or #22 (Washington, DC).<P>I've decided not to invite the young man to join us (although I'll certainly welcome him should he find us on his own -- he might: he seems to have a lot of initiative); I'm summarizing much of what we said and I'll post a link to it (for your comments) when it's farther along.<P>Thanks to everyone who contributed, even those who (ahem) called me names.<BR><p>[This message has been edited by salzberg (edited April 24, 2001).]

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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2001 4:06 am 
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I never call you names Jeff. If i said what I think I'd have to ban myself from the site!


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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2001 4:39 am 
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Stuart, I, of course, feel no such restraint, you ***** *****.<P>Remember Bunker Hill!<P>No, wait. . .we lost that one, didn't we?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2001 5:01 am 
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We lost it - and it was Breed's Hill.....


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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2001 5:41 am 
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OK. Finally.

I have a draft of "On Becoming an Intern" (the article, not the Critical Dance forum thread) online. You'll need the Acrobat reader to view it.

As always, comments on substance and/or style are welcome; to be most useful, I need them by Wednesday, 5/2/01.

To read it, click here.

. . .or here.

. . .or even there ====> <img src="http://www.criticaldance.com/ubb/smile.gif" alt="" />

<small>[ 08-10-2002, 09:00: Message edited by: salzberg ]</small>

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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2001 8:27 am 
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Salzberg, I think it has turned into a very good piece. The tone I feel is stern and to the point in places where it needs to be i.e. safety, but also uses humour well so as not to scare the living daylights out of your interns. The comments from other CD contributors also back it up well and will help to put your points across as not being just from you but from the point of view of most professionals.<P>It is the sort of document your students will hopefully keep and recycle in 20 years time for their interns.


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 Post subject: Re: On Becoming an Intern
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2001 10:25 am 
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Good job, Salzberg.... it reads well, not very curmudgeonly-ish at all.<P>I am flattered, honored,..... titillated that you would use something I said for this article.<P>Seriously - it reads well.


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