all this makes sense to me, so i am wondering a little, why it's still provoking discussion (even though the discussion is of course interesting...) - would it help perhaps to explain that cecchetti grade 3 students (for whom we are talking about the syllabus, and teaching method above) would commonly be aged approximately 8 to 10?<P>at this level, in the ceccheti syllabus, the focus is on correct careful placement, so as to build a solid foundation for future work - it is not on stretching...<P>re the battements glissés/ dégagés/ jetés question - i believe i was taught 'half the height of 45 degrees' (i 'm trying to avoid saying '22 and a half 'degrees, because that's quite ridiculous a statement in moving dance, especially for children.....). and i DID do cecchetti exams, at that age. however, maybe i recollect wrong! would not want to suggest that my teacher got it wrong, and don't know if this height has changed over the years, as to what they look for in an exam.<P>just checking the cecchetti syllabus notes i made about 7 or 8 years ago, for a cecchetti teaching exam, i see that the battements dégagés ARE at that half-height.<P>my understanding now, as an adult who pays attention to such things, is that battements glissés are commonly thought of as gliding just off the floor, whereas jetés are usually higher: up to, or at 45 degrees) - of course difficulties arise if/when people describe things either differently or more casually, or where they don't share the same definitions...but the above is how i use these terms now. jetés certainly, i believe, needs to go to 45 degrees, to have the 'throwing' action. one could argue about the dynamic of disengaging - could be anything - and the term dégagé is also used (in cecchetti) to mean just simply one leg disengaged from the other - a POSITION, that is, not an action - so there's an added possibility for miscommunication.....<P>rambling on a bit here!
the gist of it, is that battements dégagés in cecchetti appear to be at the mythical 22 and a half degrees!