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 Post subject: Re: What are the attitudes of dance in Universities??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 8:37 am 
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I think the best thing to keep in mind is - never put all your eggs in 1 basket. If you study at uni, then there are perhaps more limitations to achieve at a professional level, if you follow the other route, then you are limited on the educational front and on teaching later in your career.

I am certainly all for following your dreams, you only get one chance, and theres no point in wishing you had done something when its too late. Particularly with dance - its not a life long career, plus injury can also cut a career short. SO follow in many others footsteps if this really is your passion, follow your dream but have a back up plan.

Hope this has been of some help!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:55 am 
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i am also reading dance at Coventry University, England and would be interested to find out about actual graduates experiances trying to find work. before i came to uni i am quite certain i spent more hours in the studio training then, and i am worried that i might not be reaching my full potential now. i have had years of ballet training, but now only recieve 1 technical ballet class a week (we do have more in other areas). i am just getting worried that this may affect my ability to find work in the future!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:33 am 
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Clare-Lou - welcome to the board.

May I ask what your goals are? To dance (and at what level)? To teach? Other?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 4:02 pm 
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ballet gorilla, when you say that Modern Dance companies are hiring ballet trained dancers, I assume that you are speaking of the US experience.

In the UK, where Judski studies, contemporary (what we call modern) companies will in the main be recruiting contemporary/modern trained dancers. However, ballet dancers do sometimes switch to contemporary. In the past year we have seen Jenny Tattersall and Tom Sapsford from the Royal Ballet join contemporary companies to pursue their interests in the style, but they are the exception rather than the rule. Most UK contemporary companies recruit from the major specialist contemporary/modern schools in the UK and overseas.

<small>[ 11-10-2002, 17:05: Message edited by: Stuart Sweeney ]</small>


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 4:56 pm 
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I studied dance at University, not Coventry but at Roehampton and I too felt that I wasn't reaching my full potential. This was not because of the content of the technique classes or the teachers, because they were great, but simply because the amount of time spent in the dance studio and the lack of time avilable outside Uni to actually go and do open classes.I didn't want to be a performer, I wanted to teach, but I still felt in order to teach I needed to perfect my technique further. Now I have left Uni I have got loads of work teaching but even if I wanted to I would be in no position to compete against graduates coming out of Laban and London Contemporary dance School. I don't know much about the course at Coventry and what what they say graduates from their course are equipped to do, but at Roehampton it was clearly specified that it wasn't a performers course. You are given a good grounding in technique and some people go onto vocational schools to perfect this to a professional level, but I would say only in exceptional circumstances would someone go on to perform straight away after leaving the course. I think it also has a lot to do with the amount of theory involved on the course as some one mentioned early. If the emphasis is more on this then you wouldn't reach your full potential with regards to technique and performance because a certain amount of time needs to be dedicated to this in order to pass.

<small>[ 11-10-2002, 17:57: Message edited by: Jane Palmer ]</small>


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The topic has changed a bit since i last posted, but i happened to be talking about this with ballet major classmates so i thought id share.

I asked them why they decided to become a dance performance major, and they said that they viewed it as an extention of their training. Many of them came from somewhat rural areas or states that didnt have a lot of involvement with the arts or as many opportunities to build a resume as other places. As one girl put it, after taking at the University of Oklahoma, she could say now that she had danced with the Oklahoma Festival Ballet rather than no performing group at all.

They all also agreed that if they were to win a spot in a company right now, they would have no second thoughts about dropping out of school.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:09 am 
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to be honest i'm not sure what area i want to go into. i would love to perform but am quite prepared for a 'kick in the teeth' of the 'real world' after i leave uni. i know it brings in another issue but i dont want to be labeled with the attitude of 'those who cant...teach'. i dont mean this in an offensive manner because i know the commitment and skill required to be a good teacher and it is an area that i am still considering, however i still think i would like to prioritise performing, but dont feel that i could compete against London Contemporary or Rambert etc.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:16 am 
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Clare-Lou - I think prioritizing what you want to do is excellent. Go with what you want to do. Performing is something you need to do while you are younger - you can teach later if you wish to. That in no way puts teaching down, in my opinion. There is nothing wrong in doing first one thing, and then another thing later in life. It doesn't mean one thing is less important.

Are there not other levels of performing? In the USA one can find other levels, smaller professional chamber companies, semi-professional groups, others. Does that exist in the UK? Or could you start your own?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:23 pm 
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Clare-lou, yes it would be good to clarify your goals. Do you absolutely love performing? If you do, then surely you must. Don't let the competition scare you. I myself never liked auditions; I am not by nature a very competetive person. But they are a "necessary evil" of the business. You just have to keep plugging away at it. In New York, I eventually was offered performing gigs without audition,as people came to know me and had seen me perform a bit. Teaching utilizes a separate set of skills, different from performing. It helps to have performed, at least a bit, in order to be a good teacher. You can always teach "later", but best to perform as much as possible when you're younger and injury free. :D


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Drama, Dance and Performing Arts
By Neda Mostafavi for The Independent

What's it about?

At Surrey, the degree in dance and culture entails studying other cultures - Indian and African - and learning about modern dance, choreography, dance history and dance policy and management. Hull's Dance course combines academic study with physical performance work. The students learn to come to terms with a strong physical sense of their self.

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hi...i meant to reply to this but mistakenly posted it as new post. If anyone is interested inmy comment see Im studying at hull post. sorry. :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:33 pm 
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Welcome to CriticalDance Louciee Lou and many thanks for your interesting post - your course certainly has a wide range of dance themes.

I've moved your post here, as you originally intended:

Louciee_lou posted this in another topic:

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Im just preparing for my 2nd year of study in hull. I love the dance course here. There is lots of theory work and research which you are expected to do in your own time, but also have a few lessons to support this as a class. The rest is all taught practically, from choreography to different practitioners methods and styles to anantomy, phenomonology and prp-prioceptive awareness. What is also good about the course here is that unlike a lot of university courses i looked at, where the focus is aminly upon contemporary dance, here although again a lot of it is contemporary, there are equal proportions of ballet jazz and some musical theatre as well as technique and strengthenning classes. And it just proves how widely dance is being accepted in universities in the fact that you no longer have to travel further to attend a good dance course. We are even working this year with Northern Ballet for a module in "Dance and the Community".

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