antoP, that is great, amd mom2 i don't find you going off topic ....but perhaps we shall start another thread, to explore that interesting issue further.....?<P>antoP - in a way you have answered your own question, in the first para - i suppose that by 'VERY recreational' i mean those who want to dance- but really DO NOT want to "learn a discipline" as you say.....<P>we find here that this is often related to the suburb one teaches in....for example, there re some 'arty' communities where alternative schooling is popular, etc - where real ballet (like RAD ballet) would be out of place, no matter how good the syllabus...but they still think they want to 'DO' ballet....does this explain it? if not, please say so, as i want us to understand each other.

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