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 Post subject: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2000 8:47 am 
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An interesting interview with Monica Parker, a Benesh system notator, who worked with Boston Ballet on MacMillan's 'Winter Dreams'. Most, if not all, of MacMillan's works for the Royal Ballet were annotated, which is invaluable when it comes to restaging them. As Parker says, 'Muscle memory can be faulty.' Nevertheless, as another Benesh expert told us at an RB Study Day, the fact that she was there when the ballet was created still makes a difference even with a Benesh 'score'.<P>The other system used in theUK is Laban, which is meant to be better for modern dance. Are these systems used much in the US and elsewhere? Did Balanchine have his work notated from the 50s onwards?<BR> <A HREF="http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/entr/danc03022000.htm" TARGET=_blank>www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/entr/danc03022000.htm</A>


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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2000 5:19 am 
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stuart: re labanotation - it is more popular in the US than benesh, but there are a number of reasons for that. ONE is that the benesh institute is in london, whereas the dance notation bureau (laban headquarters) is in new york.<P>one form of notation or the other is not necessarily 'better' for anything - they are completely DIFFERENT in their approaches. <P>only a tiny handful of people worldwide has ever mastered BOTH methods, so few people are really in a position to comment on 'better'!<P>benesh was invented for ballet specifically, and it is easy to see, when you learn it, that ballet is where it is most 'at home' - but it CAN do anything...<P>thanks for the link: monica parker was in charge of the benesh institute when i trained there. she's a character!<P>and balanchine works are certainly notated, in both systems - but when they STARTED to be, i have no idea.<P> <P>

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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2000 1:25 am 
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Each month on ballet.co.uk the young and talented UK choreographer Christopher Hampson writes a diary. He has made work for English National Ballet and City Ballet of London among others. This month he talks about the relationship with his Benesh notator, Caroline and shows what a tricky, but crucial task it is.<BR> <A HREF="http://www.ballet.co.uk/magazines/yr_00/mar00/christopher_hampson_20.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ballet.co.uk/magazines/yr_00/mar00/christopher_hampson_20.htm</A>


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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2000 6:31 pm 
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Image <BR>replying to mySELF(!) here, but this IS a comprehensive site: recommended! Image

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 8:53 pm 
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Thanks for that chart. That's cool... but can you explain it a little for us non-dancer types.


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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2000 9:01 pm 
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sure, but trina may be better with laban...? <P>basically, you have a starting position, then you read up the page, one action after another, adding up to a series of movements - could be a dance, could be how you get out of bed in the morning and stagger for the coffee... <P>each action is described in terms of it's type/amount of effort, it's direction in space, it's level (high/low sort-of-thing) and so on. this is an extremely basic idiot's view (i.e. MINE, because what i learned was so many years ago, i don't remember much, not having used it since).<P>the shapes you seehere, are the shapes that are drawn, successively, to describe the directions of travel, i believe.<P>i think that dance notation bureau has a page of basic instructions - for people like YOU! Image<BR>____________________________________________<P>it DOES. here it is: <A HREF="http://www.dancenotation.org/notationbasics/LNBasics.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.dancenotation.org/notationbasics/LNBasics.html</A> <p>[This message has been edited by grace (edited May 12, 2000).]

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2000 9:59 am 
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Thanks, Grace. Also, I assume you are only teasing me...


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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2000 7:17 am 
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a succinct article on the pre-20th century history of dance notation, by victoria watts for ballet.co: <A HREF="http://www.ballet.co.uk/mar98/notation_history.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ballet.co.uk/mar98/notation_history.htm</A> <P> Image <P>and from the university of brighton, a PICTORIAL overview of some movement notation methods (not exactly scholarly, this one, but fun to look at): <A HREF="http://balletdance.about.com/musicperform/balletdance/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://cccw.adh.bton.ac.uk/schoolofdesign/MA.COURSE/LInfDes12.html" TARGET=_blank>http://balletdance.about.c om/musicperform/balletdance/gi/dynamic/offsite<BR>.htm?site=http://cccw.adh.bton.ac.uk/schoolofdesign/MA.COURSE/LInfDes12.html</A> <P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by grace (edited June 11, 2000).]

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Image <P>the Language of Dance Centre, headed by Dr. Ann Hutchinson-Guest, has a website with news of courses, including courses in the UK and USA.<P>the site is here: <A HREF="http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/drive/sn26/LODcourses/What%20LOD.html" TARGET=_blank>http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/drive/sn26/LODcourses/What%20LOD.html</A> <P>and because i've found a little difficulty with this site's navigation, i'll also put the page here which lists the courses for 2000: <A HREF="http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/drive/sn26/LODcourses/index.html" TARGET=_blank>http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/drive/sn26/LODcourses/index.html</A>

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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2000 7:45 am 
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this is the laban international courses website, with lots of useful info: <A HREF="http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.thornton/index2.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.thornton/index2.htm</A> <P>

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Image <P>the International Council of Kinetography Laban has a site here: <A HREF="http://www.multimania.com/ickl/Pages/base.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.multimania.com/ickl/Pages/base.html</A> <P>

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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2000 5:08 am 
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if you want to be on the Laban listserve "laban Talk", take a look at this. good links here: <A HREF="http://www.multimania.com/ickl/Pages/links.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.multimania.com/ickl/Pages/links.html</A>

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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2000 5:18 am 
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Maybe you should change the name of this thread, because i didn't know all this information about Laban Notation was in here?


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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
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a little article about a benesh notator who stages cranko's ballets:<BR> <A HREF="http://www.sltrib.com:80/09172000/arts/22961.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.sltrib.com:80/09172000/arts/22961.htm</A>

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 Post subject: Re: Dance Notation: Benesh & Labanotation
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2001 6:26 pm 
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Movement in Laban:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>An Analytical Approach to Dance</B><BR> <BR>Lisa Traiger, Washington Post<P>CLARITY -- of purpose, of movement, of intention. That's what dancers and choreographers say they attain by studying Laban Movement Analysis, an academic system that breaks movement into four components: body, effort, shape and space. As intellectual and jargon-filled as this pursuit sounds, its goal is understanding and evaluating movement and meaning, perception and action, and how they relate in a variety of arenas.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40781-2001Mar8.html" TARGET=_blank><B>More</B></A>


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