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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 1:08 am 
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In the other thread QUESTIONS-QUESTIONS, i asked about some books. The books i was actually referring to were the ones for Vaganova. Because in the thread Grace, said 'there are a couple of truly excellent books about Vaganova' (not her exact words). <BR>So i was wondering what they were?<BR>Thanx. <BR>

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 1:40 am 
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Also, Grace, this doesnt have anything to do with books, but in the 'other' thread you said that maybe i was the mother of a child doing Vaganova, well i am correcting you. No, i am not a mother, nor in fact married. If i told you why, you would probably understand. Image

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 2:30 am 
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sorry to be wrong elizabeth....i can detect a specific interest, though - that's all, forgive me for jumping to conclusions!!! Image<P>the vaganova texts which are REALLY special are these:-<P><B>SCHOOL OF CLASSICAL DANCE</B> by Kostrovitskaya and Pisarev, published by Progress Publishers in Moscow and translated by John Barker, in 1978. (Edited by Natalia Roslavleva and Vladislav Kostin)<P>This is like a bible, and would only be of interest to a dedicated teacher. For years it was out of print, so my copy is a second-hand one, which used to be as rare as hen's teeth! Fortuntely there was a re-issue, due to the increased interest in the West, and i believe Dancebooks in london are the official suppliers or agents in the West for this - that last part could be wrong, but either way, you can certainly get it thru them.<P>a more recent, and more accessible book, is an american publication, <B>100 Lessons in Classical Ballet</B> by Vera Kostrovitskaya, translated by Oleg Briansky. This one was put out by Limelight Publications in New York in 1987, and my guess is that there is a more recent edition of this, too. I am quite sure this one is available thru amazon.com<P>this book also, is really just a listing of exercises, in some detail, which, again i feel, would only be of interest to the dedicated teacher...<P>i think the lack of any vaganova book for the general public is yet another indication of the specialist nature of the subject matter - it just was never intended for mere mortals! Image<P>a much more recent book, which IS user-friendly, and may be of interest here is <B>The Perfection of Dance</B> - even though it is NOT from the vaganova school, or st petersburg, at all.<P>this one is from the moscow equivalent: "the moscow academic choreographic school". the authors are Leonid Zhdanov and Margarita Yussim. this book is published in 1994 by Coombe Books in Surrey, UK, and is a picture-book with lots of explanatory text.<P>although it is about the moscow school rather than the saint petersburg (vaganova) aschool, it is a good starting point book-wise for understanding the russian approach - especially because it has many photographs, which the other two don't.<P>i don't know where this is avaialable, but if i was looking for this one, i would definitely start at "good old" dancebooks! Image

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 2:32 am 
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p.s. i dont know where in australia you are, but there is a very good performing arts bookshop in central sydney, which used to stock at least one or two of these....hope they haven't closed down or moved, like everything else we have relied on, dance-wise, for years! Image

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 6:55 am 
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One of the books that sits on my bookshelf is: The Classic Ballet - by Lincoln Kirstein, Muriel Stuart and Carlus Dyer, copyright 1952 - it was still in print many years later when I bought it in 1968 - and I have seen it in the bookshops many years after that. <P>I just love reading history books on the ballet and they take up most of the space on my books shelves. I also have "Classes in Classical Ballet" by Asaf Messerer.<P>The rest of my books are physics and the dance, and the large and wonderful picture books. A terrific book full of Pavlova pictures and several of Fonteyn, Ulanova, Makarova, Nureyev - and the anthologies of the major companies.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 7:25 am 
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basheva, the 100 Lessons book i mention is kind of like messerer's book, but messerer's is more advanced, whereas the 100 lesons goes from the absolute beginning of learning 1st position, thru the training years to the completion of vocational training in the vaganova system - not into professional/ company classes at all.<BR>

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oops - i s'pose i SHOULD say - even tho' it goes without saying - that the messerer book is not vaganova, elizabeth....didn't mean to confuse the issue, with us talking amongst ourselves here! Image

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Ok this is about books but not on your subject so you can put it somewhere else if you want.<BR>question I need some recommendations for books for children for ballet what you guys think should be in their personal libray.<BR>I want to purchase one or two for christmas presents.<BR>She has "the ballet book" from national ballet shcool.<BR>and i have "the parents book of ballet"<BR>I would recommend these two for anyone.<BR>charlene


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 10:24 am 
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Char - I just got back from the library where I volunteer - and I saw a beautiful children's ballet book that just came in. As soon as I have a chance I am going to go back and get the name for you. Give me a couple of days - I will be back at the library on Tuesday. <P>Grace is right the Messerer book is NOT Vaganova - he taught at the Bolshoi. He is the uncle of Maya Plisetskaya. That family is supposed to be some of the finest teachers ever. In the 1980's one of them, a middle aged woman, an aunt of Maya Plisetskaya's came to San Diego. I took a class from her - was one of the worst clases I ever had. Totally disorganized. She did some of the barre exercises on only one side. I know that sounds unbeliveable - but that's what happened. When someone brought it to her attention - she said doing it on both sides was not necessary!! I was really astonished.<P>I never used the Messerer book for my class - I always liked to choreograph for them myself. But it was fun to work out the lessons for my own enjoyment.<p>[This message has been edited by Basheva (edited October 20, 2000).]


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 11:23 am 
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Char - this is for you - I had an opportunity to call the library and so this is the information I got I hope it is not the book you already have:<P>Title: "The Young Performer's Guide to Classical Dance" - How to begin and grow to be a happy dancer. By: Deborah Bowes, Publisher: Firefly books<BR>ISBN # 1552093522 <P>Amazon.com has it - and you can look at it there.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 1:49 pm 
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Thanx for all the infomation, as for books on Vaganova, there doesnt seem to be many, so i guess it wasnt supposed to excape 'the walls of the hallowed institution'. Image<P>I have another question about books though. <BR>What books would you recommend to a daughter/ mother, who is just starting ballet (the daughter)and has had no previous experience or anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 3:04 pm 
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Grace, about jumping to conclusions, it doesnt matter, im sure everyone has done this at least once. Image

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Yes this is the book we have I would recommend it to any child interested very good pictures and easy to understand.<BR>the national ballet of canada also has a small story book about the kids in the school. <BR>charlene


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 3:53 pm 
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I looked up the kids book its called<BR>"ballet school" ISBN 0-86505-706-0<BR>It has pictures of auditions, dorms, classrooms, pool,studio, physiotherapy, *******, <BR>charlene


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 4:10 pm 
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Elizabeth - look at the book I recommended to Char - she agrees it is a good book - so you might want to look at that one.


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