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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:26 am 
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Yes, I was surprised last year when I saw the Bolshoi that they used the local orchestra (under the direction of their conductor though). Ticket prices were pretty hefty for that show as well, but I guess not enough to cover a full orchestra.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:54 pm 
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Casting for "Swan lake" 25th and 26th July

Some very helpful people involved in the administration of the Kirov visit have provided us with the full cast sheets for the performances of "Swan lake" over the next two days. Bless you!

Click here for the full casting details

<small>[ 24 July 2003, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Stuart Sweeney ]</small>


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:12 am 
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A big, big THANK YOU to those helpful people.
This certainly helps to make the usual Kirov casting lottery more bearable.


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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:22 pm 
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Back to Mary Ellen's question, the company is 220 members strong (orchestra included) and yes, that orchestra will be visiting Calif. too. Lucky us!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:32 am 
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A note on the use of "Kirov/Mariinsky" as the naming convention:

http://www.kirov.com/faq/FAQ00003.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:34 am 
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Hi Catherine and thanks for the useful link. The article gives a good background to the present naming situation, which is messy. It is certainly valuable to point out at regular intervals that the ballet company is called "Mariinsky" in Russia, following the revision of the name of the theatre. From time to time I use Kirov/Mariinsky to help relative newcomers, especially when we are talking about performances in Russia.

In the light of the possible confusion over naming, it's worth thinking about what we should call the Company here. As a result, I checked today with the Company's representative in the UK and she confirmed that they want to be known as "Kirov" for touring outside Russia and they do not wish the name "Kirov/Mariinsky" to be used in general. The venues for the forthcoming US tour also uniformly use "Kirov" and "Kirov Ballet". Thus, although I would cast my vote for "Mariinsky", it looks as though we should stick with "Kirov" until the Company decides otherwise.

By the way, the www.kirov.com site is a long-standing and useful site, especially for programming. However, it is an unofficial site, which could be made clearer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:29 pm 
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Now that "Mariinsky" is more frequently used in the west, have you ever wondered which syllable is stressed in this name? It's pronounced Ma-RI-in-sky, being named after the Empress Maria, wife of Tsar Alexander II.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 5:43 am 
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Hey! We just passed the 200 posting mark for this Kirov forum with over 20 people worldwide taking part directly. Thanks also to the readers who have said how much they appreciate the orderly structure of our Kirov Forum with everything in one place and few duplications.

Keep all the reviews, comments and questions coming folks.

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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:29 pm 
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Hi all -
Just wanted to note that Stuart made a good point. When I posted it, I did realize (but failed to mention) that kirov.com is an unofficial site. However the official site doesn't refer to "Kirov" at all... only further confusing the issue! We're lucky we have the direct input via Stuart from the tour managers as far as naming convention goes. It's good to know their preferences.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:55 pm 
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Just in case I wasn't clear, I meant that it could be highlighted on the www.kirov.com site that it is an unofficial website, rather than in your post, Catherine.

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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:25 am 
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Oh -- right! Well, that too!

No worries. ;-) :)

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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:41 pm 
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I do prefer the word Mariinsky - has a better ring about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:43 pm 
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Hi All,

In St Pertersburg, "Kirov" doesn't mean only the Ballet. There are also a museum, a factory, a vessel.


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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:11 pm 
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Not to mention if one were to say the "Kirov Theatre" there, that encompasses the Opera, Ballet and Symphony/Orchestra. As Jerome pointed out, there are nearly no references to Kirov over there, in conjunction with the ballet.

Emma: you and I are on the same page :) , I too prefer Mariinsky. If i had to guess, the touring preference for "Kirov" is based on [probably correct] assumptions about the historical Russian knowledge of most Americans.

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 Post subject: Re: Introduction to the UK tour and news
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and not just USA - for the London seasons of the Hochausers they have been Kirov and they wouldn't want to lose that brand!


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