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Author:  Francis Timlin [ Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:39 am ]
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An Associated Press report of a fire at the Musical Theater of Stanislavsky and Nemirovich-Danchenko in Moscow:

http://www.tribnet.com/24hour/world/story/921026p-6413243c.html

Author:  Azlan [ Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:35 am ]
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Quote:
Russian Theater Evacuated After Fire

ALEX KWIATKOWSKI
Associated Press on Yahoo

MOSCOW - A fire broke out at a theater in central Moscow just before the ballet "Giselle" was to begin Wednesday, prompting the evacuation of 1,250 people. more

Author:  Azlan [ Mon May 30, 2005 12:38 pm ]
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Sad that the arts becomes a target:

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Moscow's most-wanted claims theater fire

By C.J. Chivers
NEW YORK TIMES
in the Contra Costa Times

MOSCOW - Shamil Basayev, the elusive leader of many of Chechnya's guerrillas and terrorists, claimed late Saturday that a group of his saboteurs had set fire to one of Moscow's most important opera and ballet theaters. more

Author:  Xoreograf [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:12 pm ]
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This theater wasn't totally near opening, their performances were being help at the Bolshoi New stage and the Red Army Theater. I know this because I held rehearsals there through June. From the source- E

Author:  Toba Singer [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:01 am ]
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Sad that the arts becomes a target






Yes, very sad. :( The only sadder thing :cry: :cry: :cry: is the centuries of oppression faced by the Chechnyan people under the domination of "Mother Russia," reprised by the counterrevolutionary Soviet government under Stalin and his bureaucratic successors :twisted: :roll: . With no other recourse, and lacking the weapons of mass destruction :twisted: that their oppressors possess, the Chechnyans must feel quite desperate to resort to such a shocking :shock: and hurtful :idea: :( tactic. :!:

Author:  Tom Skelton [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:00 pm ]
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Oppressed though they might be, nothing justifies the deliberate targeting of innocent civilians.

Author:  ksneds [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:39 pm ]
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As a reminder, this forum is for discussing dance, and it's not the place for political debates. While the fire was a tragedy, the poitics behind the fire are not appropriate topics of discussion for this board.

Kate

Author:  Toba Singer [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:51 pm ]
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Beg pardon? This board is called "Dance Issues" and was created expressly because some of you objected to any but the consensus political point of view from being expressed on the other boards. If you succeed in gutting the entire site of political observations at variance with the consensus, where is the place for those who may sympathize with the plight of the Chechyans? They are a people not largely present in the dance world where their behavior is now being scrutinized and characterized. Such individuals are, by these renewed invocations of "appropriateness," being prevented from taking issue with those who concur that "sad" covers any and all permissable sentiments that may be expressed on the subject of the Moscow fire.

The fire is yes, "sad," Tom; the reasons for it even "sadder," and the attempt to quash discourse on the subject of why it occurred "saddest" of all, Kate.

Author:  salzberg [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:19 pm ]
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Toba Singer wrote:
Beg pardon? This board is called "Dance Issues" and was created expressly because some of you objected to any but the consensus political point of view from being expressed on the other boards.


I'm not sure where you got that idea. As the description on the main forum page says, Dance Issues is a place to "discuss issues in dance and related arts".

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If you succeed in gutting the entire site of political observations at variance with the consensus, where is the place for those who may sympathize with the plight of the Chechyans?


There are many, many forums on the web and on Usenet that exist for the general discussion of political issues. Criticaldance is not one of them. This has nothing to do with whether or not a position is "at variance with the consensus" (and I'm at a loss as to what you think "the consensus" might be).

Political discussions, as they relate to the arts in general and dance in particular, are appropriate here. People wishing to discuss other political issues should do so, by all means, but not on Criticaldance.

Author:  Toba Singer [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:47 pm ]
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"Sad when the arts become a target." THAT is a political statement that reflects the consensus I referred to earlier. The individual who makes that statement is not directed to other "more appropriate" sites. If I find the term "target" perjorative in the political sense, I believe I have the right to express my opinion free of censure by those who are saddened because they see the arts as a target (of something). Something what? Something political.

Author:  salzberg [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:55 pm ]
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