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 Post subject: Reality check: Americans lacking in artistry
PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:54 am 
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Not about dance but I wonder if this is a symptom of something bigger:

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Reality check: Americans lacking in artistry

By Ralph Routon
Morris News Service/Morning Sun

ATHENS, Greece - Normality returned to the Olympics on Tuesday. <a href=http://www.morningsun.net/stories/081804/spo_20040818024.shtml target=_blank>more</a>


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 Post subject: Re: Reality check: Americans lacking in artistry
PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:23 pm 
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It's funny. I had dinner with a group of ballet friends last night, and we all said the same thing. Many of the gymnasts from Romania, China and Russia look as if they have had ballet training. It was evident in their artistry. Not so with the Americans.


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 Post subject: Re: Reality check: Americans lacking in artistry
PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:45 am 
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for me i could always tell the dancers from the non-dancers by the fact that some of the gymnasts were just going through the moves, but others were putting some feeling into it. the triple-spin element was also a big hint as to who had had dance training or not. i agree about the Americans, it seemed obvious to me that some of them were certainly in their school cheerleader squads, but the Chinese and Romanians showed teh most obvious signs of ballet training.


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 Post subject: Re: Reality check: Americans lacking in artistry
PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:30 pm 
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You know... i may be alone here, but I always wondered why it was called "Artistic Gymnastics" when i see nothing artistic about it, no matter who's performing.

Ive always felt that all the gymnasts i've seen obviously glaze over the "dance" portion of the beam and floor because their minds are on the tumbling passes. why bother?

I will concede that the Romanians and Chinese have always seemed to give their routines something "extra" that the americans dont. But I would sooner call it energy and audience connection rather than art.


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