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 Post subject: Munch's "The Scream" Stolen!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:36 am 
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OSLO, Norway (AP) -- Armed men stormed into an art museum Sunday, threatened staff at gunpoint and stole Edvard Munch's famous paintings "The Scream" and "Madonna" before the eyes of stunned museum-goers.
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I've always felt a strong attraction to this painting and, indeed, used it as a visual concept for the lighting for a ballet I did in Chicago. I hope it will be recovered soon and hasn't vanished forever into someone's private collection.

According to the NY Times, The Scream was previously stolen (in 1994) and recovered 3 months later.

I suppose I can understand the urge to own a work like that, but I can't understand stealing it, and I have to wonder -- especially since it had been stolen before -- why security wasn't better.

<small>[ 22 August 2004, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: salzberg ]</small>

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 Post subject: Re: Munch's "The Scream" Stolen!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:50 am 
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Amen to that Jeff. I've been to the Munch Museum in Oslo and it was a very exciting experience, as was the "Munch in Germany" exhibition in Hamburg which had the full Frieze of Life series, including "The Scream" in a gorgeous, domed, circular room.

"Madonna" is an extraordinary work, especially when you consider that it was created in 1895:

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Many of these major art thefts are connected with the international drugs trade, where such paintings are used as "collateral".

The only good news is that most of Munch's paintings exist in several versions and a second version of "The Scream" is in the National Museum in the centre of Oslo and it was this version that was stolen in 1994.

Norway is such a safe, low-crime rate society that security, beyond the standard arrangements, probably seems unnecessary. Given that the thieves had guns etc and the museum is on the edge of Oslo, I wonder if similar museums in the UK would have done any better.

To impress Norwegians, pronounce Munch as "Munk".

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 Post subject: Re: Munch's "The Scream" Stolen!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:05 am 
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Given that the thieves had guns etc and the museum is on the edge of Oslo, I wonder if similar museums in the UK would have done any better.
I was thinking more of the fact that the painting was not securely attached to the wall, but rather was hanging by a wire, easily pulled loose.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:09 pm 
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Ironically, this theft came 103 years to the day after da Vinci's Mona Lisa was stolen from the Louvre.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:39 am 
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Norway searches for stolen Scream
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Few believe the thieves would try to sell the paintings on Norway has launched a nationwide search to recover a fragile version of one of the world's most famous paintings - Edvard Munch's The Scream.

Armed robbers held up Oslo's Munch Museum on Sunday in a daring daylight raid to steal both The Scream and another Munch masterpiece, Madonna.

Police said they had no idea who was behind the theft as art dealers speculated a ransom might be demanded.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:01 am 
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I’m a big believer in deterrent to prevent crime. I suggest to prevent future thefts of this nature all countries agree to pass a special law that criminals of this nature be sentenced to death by pointe shoe. Those convicted will be sentenced to death by having ballerinas break in their pointe shoes on their heads! :eek: Question: Who would be stupid enough to buy a hot painting?

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Many high-profile art thefts are "made-to-order" at the behest of rich collectors who wish to keep the pieces in their private collections.

Obviously, they can't show them to anyone, but I guess the thrill of ownership is what they're after.

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Thomas Crown thrills?

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Ironically, this theft came 103 years to the day after da Vinci's Mona Lisa was stolen from the Louvre.
Another point of coincidence:

Munch was born on 12 December, 1863. The Mona Lisa was recovered on 12 December, 1913.

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Stuart: I like your tastes in women! Where were you August 22nd? Any new additions to your den?

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I just heard on Marketplace, a nightly radio show about business and economics that airs on our National Public Radio, that the Munch Museum did not have theft insurance, their philosophy being that the works are not replaceable at any price.

Of course, if they were insured, the insurance company, not the museum, would pay whatever ransom is demanded.

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I can’t believe they were uninsured. :eek: Wow! :eek: I’m curious if paintings are implanted with tracking devices to help authorities sniff out a stolen painting? Most cars are. Why not priceless paintings? :confused: FYI: A car is stolen every 25.3 seconds in the USA!

What makes me so mad is these clowns not only stole from the art museum, they stole from humanity.

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Gallery defends Scream security
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Few believe the thieves would try to sell the paintings on
The head of the Oslo gallery where armed robbers snatched Edvard Munch's The Scream has defended its security.
Two masked men threatened a guard with a gun and tore the picture as well as Munch's Madonna from the walls of the Munch Museum in Norway on Sunday.

Gunnar Sorensen said a silent alarm went off and police arrived in minutes. "We think of security problems all the time and work with security," he said.

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