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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 3:46 am 
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Not that I know who/what Smashing Pumpkins are.....


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 5:44 am 
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Well, I don't know who Smashing Pumpkins are but it doesn't sound like something I'd want to know LOL!<P>However, one might say that Mozart was not honored in his day.......<P>I guess what I am trying to say - and doing a poor job of it is......that I can assign value to art for myself - but I hesitate to do that for others.


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 7:28 am 
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ah! NOW i understand better.....<P>point taken,..... <P>but still.....<P>hmmm....

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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 8:49 am 
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grace, please tell us who the Smashing Pumpkins are!


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 8:58 am 
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Hi guys, <P>I'm really in to reading the dance criticism of Joan Acocella, and this topic brings to mind her book-length study of Mark Morris. In it, she spends a great deal of time talking about how his love of both "high art" and "mass art" shapes his aesthetic, writing that unlike most young artists of the eighties who embraced the "mass" and sneered at "high," Morris loves both.<P>The distinctions really helped me understand what was going on, aesthetically, in not only Morris' work but that of many others. And so while "high art" isn't a very tidy container, I find the concept useful.


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 9:00 am 
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Oh yeah . . .<P>Smashing Pumpkins is a rock band fronted by singer/songwriter Billy Corgan. They hit it big around 1993 with "Today is the greatest . . ."<P>LOL!


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 11:39 am 
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I wouldn't worry about the Smashing Pumpkins too much, after being around for a good 15 years or so they recently played their last show, lol. :0


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2000 4:11 pm 
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thanks so much belinda! i couldn't have answered that question! i had no idea who they were - i just knew THAT they were....<P>and it looks like i was about 7 years behind the times, even with that example...who would be a big name to mention now, in this context, in 2000....almost 2001?<P>so glad you were here! Image

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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
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'..who would be a big name to mention now, in this context, in 2000....almost 2001?'<P>The Beatles perhaps?


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
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I have no problem attempting to assign (or suggest) my artistic values to others. It's my job. lol. I just try to be subtle about it and do it through teaching and my artwork. Those who don't like it can go watch WWF and decorate their homes with carnival prizes. More lol...And by the way, I do have a velvet painting from the 50's and an old kewpie doll, in addition to some "nice stuff."


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Maggie - I have a much beloved Kewpie doll too - she sits on my dresser - I made all the clothes she wears - I love her saucy smile......


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Any of y'all who are hesitant to differentiate high art from low art ain't never seen a second line comin' down the street during Mardi Gras, dahlin. Dees are some of dem same buffoons who cat called and wolf whistled at Misha when he performed here with Mark Morris a few years back -- actually, dat was when dey weren't jiggling da ice in dere soft drinks or spillin' dem M&Ms on da floor or talkin 'bout where dey was gonna eat after da performance, hey.


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 Post subject: Re: Line Between High Art and Commerce
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Christina - sounds like you might have been in the French Quarter late last night and had a few Hurricanes? LOL - <P>Dat wasn't da buffoons laffin at Misha - dat was de bodies wot done spilled outa dem above ground coffins, y'll got dere.....<P>When de river rise de bodies done float down da street, dahrlin - I been dere - I seen dem bodies floatin around in de middle ob de night.<P>(I am NOT signing my signature to this one.)


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LOVE your post, maggie - but what's 'WWF' please?

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Grace, it stands for World Wrestling Federation. Nothing to do with competitive wrestling found in high schools and colleges.


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