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 Post subject: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:35 pm 
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Im planning on doing a paper for a class at school about the jargon of dancers (dance-specific vocabulary), especially as used in the american/english language context.

I want to point out and explain the different origins of the terminology we use among other dance "insiders." I have Gail Grant's dictionary which is somewhat helpful, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any more specific books/articles dealing with dance terminology. I know that ballet is mostly french and italian in origin, but i would also like to use words associated with jazz and modern (pitch turns, barrel turns, etc) as well. Any ideas or suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:47 am 
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That's a tough one gaeadea. One thought that occurs is the way that usage of terminology changes even within ballet, as the discussions in "Studio" indicate.

Another aspect is the way that sequences of steps within a work are given a name, often silly, for convenience.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:41 am 
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"Lame duck" gets my vote!


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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:31 am 
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Gaeadea,
If you need to know stuff in French, I can help... :D

I also noted a few differences when coming to the UK (chaines, being called that only in the English speaking countries. We call them usually 'déboulés' in France; and lame duck, of course!).


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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:01 am 
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Thanks guys... im sure that ill be enlisting your help at some point!

Right now, though i really need to find some concrete sources for my prospectus due on wednesday.

I think the coolest thing ive found so far is the origin of square dancing's "dosey do".... i found the term "dos a dos", meaning back to back, in my ballet dictionary and i was like "heeyyyy..." :D

And if anyone knows where the heck the term "b plus" comes from, id like to know. :D


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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:27 am 
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G- have you tried to look for an Etymology dictionary at your library? I also believe there are some online sites if you type in etymology dance on the yahoo searrch engine.
I think librarians love this stuff, and have always been a great help, plus librarys are fun!
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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 12:20 pm 
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Gaeadea, for a moment I thought I’d discovered a great source for you, “The Royal Academy of Dancing's Dictionary of Classical Ballet Terminology,” by Rhonda Ryman.

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Two interests competed for Ryman's attention when she was considering her project: the etymology of words, that is the evolution of ballet terms, and how the words themselves are used. The latter became Ryman's focus in a dictionary she calls "descriptive and not prescriptive."
More...

Too bad she didn’t choose the former, eh?

On to the question of why it’s called B plus – hidden somewhere in this thread are suggestions that answer that question: B+


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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:12 pm 
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Just did a quick GOOGLE search and got these

Modern Dance Terminology
Author: Paul Love
Introduction by: Eleanor King

Binding: Paperback, 96 pages
Publisher: Princeton Book Company Publishers
Published Date: 01/01/1997
List: USD $19.95
Grade: 9 to 12
ISBN: 0871272067

Jazz;
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 Post subject: Re: origins of dance vocabulary
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:40 pm 
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Thank you, guys! I'll look into these suggestions.


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